NBA · Nov 17 gameAll props Full sheet

Detroit Pistons at Cleveland Cavaliers

FinalDET 100 – CLE 108Page updated 17:25 UTC

Original picks and recorded results

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Saved picks

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How to read the prices

Over means more than the posted line; Under means fewer. Decimal odds show the total return per unit staked, including the stake. Row order follows lineup status and available prices, not a confidence ranking.

Getting a better price than most bookmakers offer is the only thing that made money in our past tests, measured on WNBA bets; NBA has not been measured yet. Player rates are context, not tips.

Players and minutes5 players in the available roster

Minutes are source estimates, not guaranteed playing time. Historical hit rates describe past games; they are not a forecast.

Detroit Pistons

Ausar Thompson · minutes unknown

assists 2.5 → 2 actual

Cade Cunningham · minutes unknown

3-pointers 1.5 → 2 actual

Cleveland Cavaliers

Donovan Mitchell · minutes unknown

assists 5.5 → no final stat available

Evan Mobley · minutes unknown

assists 2.5 → 5 actual

Jarrett Allen · minutes unknown

rebounds 9.5 → 7 actual

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Game odds

CLE expected to win by about 9 · both teams together expected to score about 217.5 points · odds to win: DET 4.09, CLE 1.27

Game odds from Pinnacle (the bookmaker we use as the reference) · observed Sat 00:35 UTC

What could go wrong

updated 17:25 UTC

Who is out

Injury report not checked yet: none has reached us for this game, so an empty list here does not mean everyone plays.

Lineups

Expected starting lineup, not yet confirmed

Playing time

No playing-time estimates are available.

Rest

Both teams had at least two days between their last game and this one.

Bookmakers

The reference bookmaker, Pinnacle, offers 0 of the 263 lines; the rest rely on other bookmakers.

Every pick is priced by at least 2 bookmakers.

When a player is out, that player's lines are removed: in our past results this helped. Guessing which teammates benefit was also tested and lost money, so nothing else on this page is adjusted for it.

Your reads and game resultsPredictions closed at game start

What happened

In 1 of 2 cases where a player's past record disagreed with the bookmakers' price, the past record was right in this game. One game proves nothing.

FinalWe had no picks in this game · every posted line is still scored below

5 other players with a posted line

Evan Mobley · assists 2.5 → 5 · 2.5 above the line · played 35.4 min · no final price

Cade Cunningham · 3-pointers 1.5 → 2 · 0.5 above the line · played 34 min · no final price

Jarrett Allen · rebounds 9.5 → 7 · 2.5 below the line · played 32.5 min · no final price

Ausar Thompson · assists 2.5 → 2 · 0.5 below the line · played 17.3 min · no final price

Donovan Mitchell · assists 5.5 → no final stat available · no final price

Each prediction is recorded as if you had staked 1 at the line you saw, and your record is shown here. One game tells you nothing yet.

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More context

Head to head

CLE vs DET · last 33 games · CLE leads · CLE record 22–11 · average score 111.4–106.3 · CLE has won by 5.1 on average

Team results are background only; they say nothing about any single player's line.

17 May · CLE 125 at DET 94CLE won

15 May · DET 115 at CLE 94CLE lost

13 May · CLE 117 at DET 113CLE won

11 May · DET 103 at CLE 112CLE won

9 May · DET 109 at CLE 116CLE won

7 May · CLE 97 at DET 107CLE lost

5 May · CLE 101 at DET 111CLE lost

3 Mar · DET 109 at CLE 113CLE won

27 Feb · CLE 119 at DET 122CLE lost

What each defense gives up per game

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Defense by position

How much this is worth

Defense-by-position numbers are mostly random from season to season; shown for context only. We tested it: a team's defense-by-position numbers from one half of the season do not predict the other half, so treat them as noise.

Defense by position unavailable right now.

How the game odds moved

Pinnacle first had CLE expected to win by 9, expected total 217.5 (Sat 00:35 UTC) and had not changed it by Sat 00:35 UTC.

The odds at the top of the page are the latest we have, from every bookmaker on file; this is one bookmaker's own history.

Data log (technical)

Technical detail for auditing; the plain version is above. Internal ids and formula names print here only.

Line-shopping measurement: project_conditional_minutes_refuted

Our picks, raw · 0

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Checked results, raw (basketball-stats shorthand) · 0

No graded rows for this game.

Data fetches · 34

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