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Indiana Pacers at Detroit Pistons

FinalIND 115 – DET 109Page updated 15:46 UTC

Original picks and recorded results

No saved picks to grade.

Saved picks

0Posted odds · decimal

Check minutes

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We had no picks in this game.

How to read the prices

Over means more than the posted line; Under means fewer. Decimal odds show the total return per unit staked, including the stake. Row order follows lineup status and available prices, not a confidence ranking.

Getting a better price than most bookmakers offer is the only thing that made money in our past tests, measured on WNBA bets; NBA has not been measured yet. Player rates are context, not tips.

Players and minutes8 players in the available roster

Minutes are source estimates, not guaranteed playing time. Historical hit rates describe past games; they are not a forecast.

Indiana Pacers

Aaron Nesmith · minutes unknown

3-pointers 1.5 → 1 actual

Andrew Nembhard · minutes unknown

points 9.5 → 8 actual

Obi Toppin · minutes unknown

points 8.5 → 2 actual

Pascal Siakam · minutes unknown

3-pointers 0.5 → 1 actual

T.J. McConnell · minutes unknown

points 9.5 → 14 actual

Tyrese Haliburton · minutes unknown

assists 9.5 → 4 actual

Detroit Pistons

Cade Cunningham · minutes unknown

3-pointers 1.5 → 2 actual

Jalen Duren · minutes unknown

points 13.5 → 13 actual

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Availability and game contextGame odds, lineups, workload and rest

Game odds

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What could go wrong

updated 15:46 UTC

Who is out

Injury report not checked yet: none has reached us for this game, so an empty list here does not mean everyone plays.

Lineups

Expected starting lineup, not yet confirmed

Playing time

No playing-time estimates are available.

Rest

IND had 149 days off before this game · DET had 192 days off before this game.

Bookmakers

The reference bookmaker, Pinnacle, offers 0 of the 226 lines; the rest rely on other bookmakers.

Every pick is priced by at least 2 bookmakers.

When a player is out, that player's lines are removed: in our past results this helped. Guessing which teammates benefit was also tested and lost money, so nothing else on this page is adjusted for it.

Your reads and game resultsPredictions closed at game start

What happened

In 4 of 5 cases where a player's past record disagreed with the bookmakers' price, the past record was right in this game. One game proves nothing.

FinalWe had no picks in this game · every posted line is still scored below

8 other players with a posted line

Pascal Siakam · 3-pointers 0.5 → 1 · 0.5 above the line · played 32 min · BetRivers odds: Over 1.43, Under 2.65

Obi Toppin · points 8.5 → 2 · 6.5 below the line · played 16 min · BetMGM odds: Over 1.77, Under 1.95

Tyrese Haliburton · assists 9.5 → 4 · 5.5 below the line · played 35 min · BetRivers odds: Over 1.70, Under 2.07

T.J. McConnell · points 9.5 → 14 · 4.5 above the line · played 15.8 min · BetMGM odds: Over 1.77, Under 1.95

Aaron Nesmith · 3-pointers 1.5 → 1 · 0.5 below the line · played 18.8 min · BetRivers odds: Over 1.79, Under 1.95

Cade Cunningham · 3-pointers 1.5 → 2 · 0.5 above the line · played 36.5 min · BetRivers odds: Over 1.78, Under 1.96

Andrew Nembhard · points 9.5 → 8 · 1.5 below the line · played 34.8 min · BetRivers odds: Over 1.30, Under 2.95

Jalen Duren · points 13.5 → 13 · 0.5 below the line · played 30.1 min · BetRivers odds: Over 1.51, Under 2.33

Each prediction is recorded as if you had staked 1 at the line you saw, and your record is shown here. One game tells you nothing yet.

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More context

Head to head

DET vs IND · last 26 games · IND leads · DET record 12–14 · average score 113.9–113.8 · DET has won by 0.1 on average

Team results are background only; they say nothing about any single player's line.

12 Apr · DET 133 at IND 121DET won

What each defense gives up per game

Team defense unavailable right now.

Defense by position

How much this is worth

Defense-by-position numbers are mostly random from season to season; shown for context only. We tested it: a team's defense-by-position numbers from one half of the season do not predict the other half, so treat them as noise.

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How the game odds moved

No history of the game odds on file.

Data log (technical)

Technical detail for auditing; the plain version is above. Internal ids and formula names print here only.

Line-shopping measurement: project_conditional_minutes_refuted

Our picks, raw · 0

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Checked results, raw (basketball-stats shorthand) · 0

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