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Los Angeles Lakers at Atlanta Hawks

FinalLAL 102 – ATL 122Page updated 17:46 UTC

Original picks and recorded results

No saved picks to grade.

Saved picks

0Posted odds · decimal

Check minutes

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We had no picks in this game.

How to read the prices

Over means more than the posted line; Under means fewer. Decimal odds show the total return per unit staked, including the stake. Row order follows lineup status and available prices, not a confidence ranking.

Getting a better price than most bookmakers offer is the only thing that made money in our past tests, measured on WNBA bets; NBA has not been measured yet. Player rates are context, not tips.

Players and minutes8 players in the available roster

Minutes are source estimates, not guaranteed playing time. Historical hit rates describe past games; they are not a forecast.

Los Angeles Lakers

Dalton Knecht · minutes unknown

3-pointers 1.5 → 2 actual

Jake LaRavia · minutes unknown

3-pointers 1.5 → 1 actual

Jarred Vanderbilt · minutes unknown

points 4.5 → 12 actual

Luka Dončić · minutes unknown

rebounds 9.5 → 5 actual

Atlanta Hawks

Asa Newell · minutes unknown

points 7.5 → 17 actual

Dyson Daniels · minutes unknown

points 13.5 → 10 actual

Mouhamed Gueye · minutes unknown

rebounds 3.5 → 7 actual

Onyeka Okongwu · minutes unknown

rebounds 9.5 → 8 actual

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Game odds

LAL expected to win by about 5 · both teams together expected to score about 228.5 points · odds to win: LAL 1.48, ATL 2.85

Game odds from Pinnacle (the bookmaker we use as the reference) · observed Sun 00:55 UTC

What could go wrong

updated 17:46 UTC

Who is out

Injury report not checked yet: none has reached us for this game, so an empty list here does not mean everyone plays.

Lineups

Expected starting lineup, not yet confirmed

Playing time

No playing-time estimates are available.

Rest

ATL also played the day before this game.

Bookmakers

The reference bookmaker, Pinnacle, offers 0 of the 304 lines; the rest rely on other bookmakers.

Every pick is priced by at least 2 bookmakers.

When a player is out, that player's lines are removed: in our past results this helped. Guessing which teammates benefit was also tested and lost money, so nothing else on this page is adjusted for it.

Your reads and game resultsPredictions closed at game start

What happened

In 4 of 5 cases where a player's past record disagreed with the bookmakers' price, the past record was right in this game. One game proves nothing.

FinalWe had no picks in this game · every posted line is still scored below

8 other players with a posted line

Jarred Vanderbilt · points 4.5 → 12 · 7.5 above the line · played 28.4 min · FanDuel odds: Over 1.87, Under 1.90

Asa Newell · points 7.5 → 17 · 9.5 above the line · played 26.7 min · FanDuel odds: Over 1.82, Under 1.96

Mouhamed Gueye · rebounds 3.5 → 7 · 3.5 above the line · played 34.2 min · FanDuel odds: Over 1.76, Under 2.04

Luka Dončić · rebounds 9.5 → 5 · 4.5 below the line · played 26.7 min · BetMGM odds: Over 1.71, Under 2.05

Dalton Knecht · 3-pointers 1.5 → 2 · 0.5 above the line · played 24.6 min · FanDuel odds: Over 2.26, Under 1.62

Jake LaRavia · 3-pointers 1.5 → 1 · 0.5 below the line · played 23.2 min · BetRivers odds: Over 1.95, Under 1.79

Dyson Daniels · points 13.5 → 10 · 3.5 below the line · played 36.1 min · BetRivers odds: Over 1.68, Under 2.10

Onyeka Okongwu · rebounds 9.5 → 8 · 1.5 below the line · played 32.1 min · BetRivers odds: Over 1.91, Under 1.83

Each prediction is recorded as if you had staked 1 at the line you saw, and your record is shown here. One game tells you nothing yet.

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Head to head

ATL vs LAL · last 14 games · LAL leads · ATL record 5–9 · average score 113.9–120.8 · ATL has lost by 6.9 on average

Team results are background only; they say nothing about any single player's line.

No finished games between these teams on file.

What each defense gives up per game

Team defense unavailable right now.

Defense by position

How much this is worth

Defense-by-position numbers are mostly random from season to season; shown for context only. We tested it: a team's defense-by-position numbers from one half of the season do not predict the other half, so treat them as noise.

Defense by position unavailable right now.

How the game odds moved

Pinnacle first had LAL expected to win by 5, expected total 228.5 (Sun 00:55 UTC) and had not changed it by Sun 00:55 UTC.

The odds at the top of the page are the latest we have, from every bookmaker on file; this is one bookmaker's own history.

Data log (technical)

Technical detail for auditing; the plain version is above. Internal ids and formula names print here only.

Line-shopping measurement: project_conditional_minutes_refuted

Our picks, raw · 0

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Checked results, raw (basketball-stats shorthand) · 0

No graded rows for this game.

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