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Detroit Pistons at Orlando Magic

FinalDET 91 – ORL 123Page updated 11:50 UTC

Original picks and recorded results

No saved picks to grade.

Saved picks

0Posted odds · decimal

Check minutes

No playing-time estimates are available.

We had no picks in this game.

How to read the prices

Over means more than the posted line; Under means fewer. Decimal odds show the total return per unit staked, including the stake. Row order follows lineup status and available prices, not a confidence ranking.

Getting a better price than most bookmakers offer is the only thing that made money in our past tests, measured on WNBA bets; NBA has not been measured yet. Player rates are context, not tips.

Players and minutes6 players in the available roster

Minutes are source estimates, not guaranteed playing time. Historical hit rates describe past games; they are not a forecast.

Detroit Pistons

Ausar Thompson · minutes unknown

rebounds 5.5 → 2 actual

Cade Cunningham · minutes unknown

assists 6.5 → 6 actual

Orlando Magic

Anthony Black · minutes unknown

rebounds 2.5 → 5 actual

Franz Wagner · minutes unknown

assists 4.5 → 3 actual

Goga Bitadze · minutes unknown

points 7.5 → 13 actual

Paolo Banchero · minutes unknown

assists 4.5 → 2 actual

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Game odds

ORL expected to win by about 10.5 · both teams together expected to score about 229.5 points · odds to win: DET 4.83, ORL 1.21

Game odds from Pinnacle (the bookmaker we use as the reference) · observed Sat 00:05 UTC

What could go wrong

updated 11:50 UTC

Who is out

Injury report not checked yet: none has reached us for this game, so an empty list here does not mean everyone plays.

Lineups

Expected starting lineup, not yet confirmed

Playing time

No playing-time estimates are available.

Rest

Both teams had at least two days between their last game and this one.

Bookmakers

The reference bookmaker, Pinnacle, offers 0 of the 217 lines; the rest rely on other bookmakers.

Every pick is priced by at least 2 bookmakers.

When a player is out, that player's lines are removed: in our past results this helped. Guessing which teammates benefit was also tested and lost money, so nothing else on this page is adjusted for it.

Your reads and game resultsPredictions closed at game start

What happened

In 1 of 3 cases where a player's past record disagreed with the bookmakers' price, the past record was right in this game. One game proves nothing.

FinalWe had no picks in this game · every posted line is still scored below

6 other players with a posted line

Anthony Black · rebounds 2.5 → 5 · 2.5 above the line · played 24.7 min · no final price

Goga Bitadze · points 7.5 → 13 · 5.5 above the line · played 27.9 min · no final price

Ausar Thompson · rebounds 5.5 → 2 · 3.5 below the line · played 19.6 min · no final price

Paolo Banchero · assists 4.5 → 2 · 2.5 below the line · played 30.5 min · no final price

Franz Wagner · assists 4.5 → 3 · 1.5 below the line · played 30.8 min · no final price

Cade Cunningham · assists 6.5 → 6 · 0.5 below the line · played 32.2 min · no final price

Each prediction is recorded as if you had staked 1 at the line you saw, and your record is shown here. One game tells you nothing yet.

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More context

Head to head

ORL vs DET · last 30 games · ORL leads · ORL record 16–14 · average score 106.6–106.1 · ORL has won by 0.5 on average

Team results are background only; they say nothing about any single player's line.

3 May · ORL 94 at DET 116ORL lost

1 May · DET 93 at ORL 79ORL lost

29 Apr · ORL 109 at DET 116ORL lost

27 Apr · DET 88 at ORL 94ORL won

25 Apr · DET 105 at ORL 113ORL won

22 Apr · ORL 83 at DET 98ORL lost

19 Apr · ORL 112 at DET 101ORL won

6 Apr · DET 107 at ORL 123ORL won

1 Mar · DET 106 at ORL 92ORL lost

What each defense gives up per game

Team defense unavailable right now.

Defense by position

How much this is worth

Defense-by-position numbers are mostly random from season to season; shown for context only. We tested it: a team's defense-by-position numbers from one half of the season do not predict the other half, so treat them as noise.

Defense by position unavailable right now.

How the game odds moved

Pinnacle first had ORL expected to win by 10.5, expected total 229.5 (Sat 00:05 UTC) and had not changed it by Sat 00:05 UTC.

The odds at the top of the page are the latest we have, from every bookmaker on file; this is one bookmaker's own history.

Data log (technical)

Technical detail for auditing; the plain version is above. Internal ids and formula names print here only.

Line-shopping measurement: project_conditional_minutes_refuted

Our picks, raw · 0

No raw pick rows for this game.

Checked results, raw (basketball-stats shorthand) · 0

No graded rows for this game.

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