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Orlando Magic at Oklahoma City Thunder

FinalORL 86 – OKC 102Page updated 04:34 UTC

Original picks and recorded results

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Check minutes

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How to read the prices

Over means more than the posted line; Under means fewer. Decimal odds show the total return per unit staked, including the stake. Row order follows lineup status and available prices, not a confidence ranking.

Getting a better price than most bookmakers offer is the only thing that made money in our past tests, measured on WNBA bets; NBA has not been measured yet. Player rates are context, not tips.

Players and minutes10 players in the available roster

Minutes are source estimates, not guaranteed playing time. Historical hit rates describe past games; they are not a forecast.

Orlando Magic

Anthony Black · minutes unknown

assists 3.5 → 2 actual

Franz Wagner · minutes unknown

assists 4.5 → 2 actual

Goga Bitadze · minutes unknown

rebounds 7.5 → 9 actual

Jalen Suggs · minutes unknown

assists 4.5 → 6 actual

Tristan da Silva · minutes unknown

points 8.5 → 9 actual

Oklahoma City Thunder

Alex Caruso · minutes unknown

assists 2.5 → 5 actual

Cason Wallace · minutes unknown

points 7.5 → 4 actual

Chet Holmgren · minutes unknown

rebounds 9.5 → 9 actual

Jalen Williams · minutes unknown

3-pointers 1.5 → 3 actual

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander · minutes unknown

3-pointers 1.5 → 1 actual

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Game odds

OKC expected to win by about 12.5 · both teams together expected to score about 217.5 points · odds to win: ORL 6.57, OKC 1.14

Game odds from Pinnacle (the bookmaker we use as the reference) · observed Tue 02:10 UTC

What could go wrong

updated 04:34 UTC

Who is out

Injury report not checked yet: none has reached us for this game, so an empty list here does not mean everyone plays.

Lineups

Expected starting lineup, not yet confirmed

Playing time

No playing-time estimates are available.

Rest

ORL also played the day before this game.

Bookmakers

The reference bookmaker, Pinnacle, offers 0 of the 241 lines; the rest rely on other bookmakers.

Every pick is priced by at least 2 bookmakers.

When a player is out, that player's lines are removed: in our past results this helped. Guessing which teammates benefit was also tested and lost money, so nothing else on this page is adjusted for it.

Your reads and game resultsPredictions closed at game start

What happened

In 5 of 8 cases where a player's past record disagreed with the bookmakers' price, the past record was right in this game. One game proves nothing.

FinalWe had no picks in this game · every posted line is still scored below

10 other players with a posted line

Alex Caruso · assists 2.5 → 5 · 2.5 above the line · played 20.8 min · BetMGM odds: Over 2.40, Under 1.53

Jalen Williams · 3-pointers 1.5 → 3 · 1.5 above the line · played 34.5 min · BetRivers odds: Over 2.10, Under 1.68

Franz Wagner · assists 4.5 → 2 · 2.5 below the line · played 34.2 min · BetRivers odds: Over 1.41, Under 2.75

Cason Wallace · points 7.5 → 4 · 3.5 below the line · played 27 min · BetMGM odds: Over 1.91, Under 1.83

Anthony Black · assists 3.5 → 2 · 1.5 below the line · played 20.6 min · BetMGM odds: Over 1.83, Under 1.91

Jalen Suggs · assists 4.5 → 6 · 1.5 above the line · played 35 min · BetRivers odds: Over 2.85, Under 1.40

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander · 3-pointers 1.5 → 1 · 0.5 below the line · played 35.1 min · BetRivers odds: Over 1.79, Under 1.94

Goga Bitadze · rebounds 7.5 → 9 · 1.5 above the line · played 26.7 min · Bovada odds: Over 1.91, Under 1.83

Tristan da Silva · points 8.5 → 9 · 0.5 above the line · played 33.8 min · Bovada odds: Over 1.83, Under 1.91

Chet Holmgren · rebounds 9.5 → 9 · 0.5 below the line · played 21.5 min · BetRivers odds: Over 1.95, Under 1.79

Each prediction is recorded as if you had staked 1 at the line you saw, and your record is shown here. One game tells you nothing yet.

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More context

Head to head

OKC vs ORL · last 14 games · OKC leads · OKC record 11–3 · average score 111.3–103.5 · OKC has won by 7.8 on average

Team results are background only; they say nothing about any single player's line.

17 Mar · OKC 113 at ORL 108OKC won

What each defense gives up per game

OKC gives up107.9 points · 44.6 rebounds · 24.9 assists · 36.7% from three-point range

Defense by position

How much this is worth

Defense-by-position numbers are mostly random from season to season; shown for context only. We tested it: a team's defense-by-position numbers from one half of the season do not predict the other half, so treat them as noise.

Defense by position unavailable right now.

How the game odds moved

Pinnacle first had OKC expected to win by 12.5, expected total 217.5 (Tue 02:10 UTC) and had not changed it by Tue 02:10 UTC.

The odds at the top of the page are the latest we have, from every bookmaker on file; this is one bookmaker's own history.

Data log (technical)

Technical detail for auditing; the plain version is above. Internal ids and formula names print here only.

Line-shopping measurement: project_conditional_minutes_refuted

Our picks, raw · 0

No raw pick rows for this game.

Checked results, raw (basketball-stats shorthand) · 0

No graded rows for this game.

Data fetches · 49

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